Its not just FlightGear that has some Issues..........

21 Aug 2020 16:58 #47931 by StuartC
The new Flagship Microsoft Simulator has plenty of them too.

Its a pain in the arse to download ( 9 hours on my 45mbs connection ).
God help you if your sticks are not recognised and you have to set them up manually.
Turbulence appears a scripted event, and not interaction with the FDM.
Dont try with a Mouse because, well, you cant.
The Scenery looks great from altitude but you see how low res the terrain texture is when your flying low.
On External views, Mouse look Left / right is reversed for some weird unknown reason.[/li]


The Sea is a texture ( note ship loks sunken as its the sea texture )


FlightGear isnt the only one with Waterbergs.
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21 Aug 2020 22:32 #47932 by Porcius
It came on Steam for £60 I think, fuck that !! :(

Plus a shitload more money to make it actually functional - ie more than 5 planes and 15 airports costs about 90 quid ?

Bugger that.

Porcy

ps planes look nice though...

Lightning DOES strike twice.

Watchmen Quote - "I am looking at the stars.... Thier light takes so long to reach us. All we ever see of Stars are thier old photographs"

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21 Aug 2020 22:47 #47933 by Porcius
Also it proves its the software's interpretation of the data that is the problem ?

Not sure.

Lightning DOES strike twice.

Watchmen Quote - "I am looking at the stars.... Thier light takes so long to reach us. All we ever see of Stars are thier old photographs"

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22 Aug 2020 08:05 #47935 by StuartC
If you want to try it, you can actually do it for £1.00 ( yes your read that right , One Pound ).
You download the Xbox game app for PC, sign up for the first month which costs £1.00, and This is one of the included games so you can download it and try it for £1.00, which is exactly what I did, and Im glad thats all I paid.

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22 Aug 2020 13:06 - 22 Aug 2020 13:10 #47937 by Porcius
Actually it's 20 planes and 30 airports for £60.
Not sure how much scenery you get or if its downloaded like terrorsync but I would have thought it being Microsoft, you would have to pay for it, I mean what's the point of flying if there is no ground to look at or to land on ?

I imagine that doesn't compare favourably to FG figures , I have no idea how many planes/airports in FG ?.

Its £80 for 25 planes & 35 airports.
Its £110 for 30 planes & 40 airports.

Who am I kidding ? FG is more immersive, easier to get under the hood, has a massive MP environment, more expansive, personal and best of all - IT'S FREE. :woohoo: :silly: :cheer: :)

Porcy

Lightning DOES strike twice.

Watchmen Quote - "I am looking at the stars.... Thier light takes so long to reach us. All we ever see of Stars are thier old photographs"

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22 Aug 2020 13:27 #47939 by StuartC
You do get the whole world and all airports in normal quality right away at no additional cost. The 30 Airports in the basic version relate to 30 high quality ( allegedly ) airports. I have yet to find anyone on multiplayer, and if you choose multiplayer you can only run live weather.
In whole the GUI looks pretty and functions well, with the exception of setting up your sticks. That bit was created by someone who had no idea what he was being asked to code.
Its going in the bin after my initial xbox game pass £1 trial expires.

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22 Aug 2020 14:04 #47940 by Porcius

StuartC wrote: Its going in the bin after my initial xbox game pass £1 trial expires.


Yup - thought so ! I was thinking that myself, so I won't bother with the quid then.

Porcy

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Watchmen Quote - "I am looking at the stars.... Thier light takes so long to reach us. All we ever see of Stars are thier old photographs"

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23 Aug 2020 14:12 #47966 by StuartC
So heres a quick set of videos, same flight in Flight Sim and FG. LIDT to LIPX.



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23 Aug 2020 15:04 #47967 by StuartC
And again in XP11 ( different aircraft though ) just to be fare. If I had FSX on this PC I would have probably done it in that too.

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24 Aug 2020 09:11 #47970 by timi
Looks like M$2020 might win over some XP11 users whom are bored generating
their own ortho sceneries. They must be running some rigid body FDM maybe
since there seem to be no helicopters.

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24 Aug 2020 09:28 #47971 by StuartC
The FDM feels ok, except the turbulence does appear to be scripted, which makes me wonder what other flight effects are not true interaction, but scripted events.

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24 Aug 2020 16:04 #47975 by timi
I was just browsing the MSFS2020 forums and they say you can cruise
in a storm cloud with zero turbulence. Looking further apparently there
are no thermals either. :(

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24 Aug 2020 16:16 #47976 by J Maverick 16

timi wrote: ...you can cruise
in a storm cloud with zero turbulence...


Did that several times with the F-16 so to speak and the thing was griping around like a mad dog. Weather engine is way better in FG with regards to many other sims.
If only we had better graphics I bet more people would save money and go freeware :lol:
Mav

Breakin' the sound barrier every day!
Oh God, that's EGOD!

FG 2020.3.1 - iMac 27" (Mid 2010) w/ macOS 10.12.6 - Thrustmaster FCS Flight Pack + MFD Cougar

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24 Aug 2020 16:27 #47977 by timi
They should have used that deep learning which detects buildings
from the bing maps data to also extract land classes from them for
the weather engine...

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25 Aug 2020 12:46 #47982 by StuartC
Scotland has had its landmarks butchered. The Wallace monument has been replaced by a block of flats, and Edinburgh Castle appears to be Tenement housing project.

www.thenational.scot/news/18671365.edinb...FQ-_zW7uVbxhuXkS1MM4

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29 Aug 2020 15:38 #48036 by StuartC
Oh dear. Not good for the Bing source for FS2020. Users are using Googlr maps to fix its mising and screwed up landmarks.

www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/08/28/play...dqCeZzvByGxCE_Y1QKp8

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02 Sep 2020 07:23 #48060 by enrogue

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02 Sep 2020 18:22 #48062 by StuartC
Well my Xbox subscription has been cancelled so thats it binned for me.

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