29th February - The Limits: Part 1

28 Feb 2020 09:04 - 29 Feb 2020 09:43 #45204 by Algernon
The Limits 1: Trials
Test your skills at the very edge of the performance envelope



This week, our FlightNight will be the first part of a series of competitive flying events with a simple premise - go higher, and/or faster, than somebody else. There are no aircraft restrictions, though there will be operational rules in the actual competitions, so more on that later and on the night. You will be competing to set records in both individual aircraft classes - where performance should be identical and so your skill as a pilot will count - and an overall record, for which you might choose a specialist aircraft designed for high-altitude and/or high-speed flight.

For now, though, we're giving potential competitors the chance to find the right aircraft for their attempts. You can choose any aircraft from our hangar, or from a selected pool of pre-approved external aircraft, listed below. If you'd like to suggest an aircraft for approval, please state your choice in a reply and I'll take a look, and update the list as appropriate. I will provide links to the approved version of these aircraft in an update.

You can use as many different aircraft during the flying time (2000 - 2200 GMT/UTC/Zulu) as you wish.

External aircraft:
Recommended aircraft (FGUK versions):
  • EE-Lightning *
  • EF2000
  • F-22 Raptor
  • F-23 Black Widow
  • F4 / FGR2 Phantom

Apologies that some of these aren't linked to - the forum isn't letting me add URLs from our own site - but all recommended aircraft are available to download from our hangar.

* The EE Lightning linked to here is the latest alpha snapshot, not yet in the hangar, but should be fully functional and MP-optimised and is the best pick for download.

I'd welcome additions to the list of Recommended Aircraft, let me know below what else you think might meet the performance criteria. Don't forget to download any aircraft from these lists not in your hangar, so you can see them over MP.

The competition is based at our home airfield, Llanbedr (EGOD), and so is this initial stage. Although it's not necessary at this point, it might be a good time to download the competition scenario and run it - it will automatically set you to run the same time and weather as everybody else and will, in the competition, allow your speed and height records to be announced and recorded. Link to follow.

Other useful information:
  • it's recommended you run ALS for this scenario.

This is a chance to trial aircraft and ask questions about the competition to help you form a strategy in the run up to the first heat. It's not just about aircraft performance - you stand to gain more from setting records in various aircraft classes than just one or two shots at the overall highest or fastest.

It might help to read the competition thread which includes the rules.

More to follow!
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28 Feb 2020 09:44 #45205 by StuartC
One tiny little question.

What scenario?

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28 Feb 2020 09:45 - 28 Feb 2020 11:14 #45206 by Algernon
It'll be available very soon! Just tweaking it now :) Then I'll link to it.

UPDATE: I'm actually going to keep back releasing the scenario until Saturday afternoon, as I'm making adjustments and will be testing the scoring system during the actual flight.

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28 Feb 2020 10:58 #45208 by Algernon
As mentioned above, tonight is a good time to figure out strategies - i.e. how to get the best out of each aircraft you choose to compete in. You'll also have to comply with rules in the actual competition, so it might be useful to know them now to help with strategising. I've started a new thread in the Special Events subforum which I'll start building up with information - I've started with some of the rules. You can see it here: fguk.me/forum/special-events/8343-the-li...titive-flying-events

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28 Feb 2020 15:54 #45211 by J Maverick 16
I'd suggest as External a/c Richard's F-15 (can be found both on FGAddon and his GitHub: github.com/Zaretto/fg-aircraft ). Both fast and can travel high up.
Mav

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Oh God, that's EGOD!

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28 Feb 2020 16:12 #45212 by Vodoun da Vinci
F-22 Raptor for me....

VooDoo

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28 Feb 2020 16:27 #45213 by timi
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28 Feb 2020 16:36 - 28 Feb 2020 16:40 #45214 by Algernon
You'll have about an hour and a half, and can change aircraft at any point you want, so you needn't stick to just one...

Space planes and spacecraft are, naturally, not approved!

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28 Feb 2020 19:36 #45215 by sanni
Bella and ec135
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28 Feb 2020 20:36 #45216 by Porcius
I must mention the F-4 Phantom which set many, many records including time to altitude, low level speed, long distance etc
Its very fast.

Porcy

Lightning DOES strike twice.

Watchmen Quote - "I am looking at the stars.... Thier light takes so long to reach us. All we ever see of Stars are thier old photographs"
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29 Feb 2020 17:12 #45229 by Algernon
The Scenario is now available. It's a zip file - just copy the folder and the .xml file to your FlightGear AI directory. As said above, it's not necessary but would help me to test the system if you're running it.

Download it here: drive.google.com/file/d/1Xq0X8yG6lITOuTZ...iQJ/view?usp=sharing

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29 Feb 2020 19:43 #45234 by Porcius
ALSO !

The F-104G Starfighter which sort of spanked the EE Lightning in some trials.

P

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Watchmen Quote - "I am looking at the stars.... Thier light takes so long to reach us. All we ever see of Stars are thier old photographs"

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01 Mar 2020 14:03 #45250 by Algernon
Thanks so much to everyone who participated last night. It was a great opportunity to get people across the concept, for me to get an understanding of what works and what doesn't, and I also managed to test a bit of the code too.

I'll be aiming to bring out the competitive flights soon. I want to run a few heats, and then do a big competition at the FGUK10 events in anniversary month, and thus far it looks like things are going well. I'll post in a separate thread regarding the take-away issues from this flight (there weren't really any, except we learned that the SR-71 is not necessarily going to take the overall height/speed prize easily).

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